15/04/2005 (Agence Europe) - Jacques Chirac, who was interviewed on TF1 on Thursday evening by young people aged between 18 and 30, explained what is at stake with the European Constitution, a text he described as going “beyond an economic Europe to create a political Europe”. In the face of globalisation, the French President told the television audience, we need a “humanist Europe, and therefore a well-organised one (…). We need rules. Now that there are 25 of us, we have thought about these rules. This is what the Constitution is”. When asked about the impact of a no in the French referendum of 29 May, Mr Chirac answered: “the first consequences would be that European integration would stop. The renegotiation argument is not serious, for the simple reason that we are 25 and that the 24 others do not want this”. The second consequence, he continued, is that “we will be the black sheep that put a stop to everything. We will no longer count”. At least twice, in answer to questions on France's international margin once the EU has a foreign minister, Jacques Chirac said that if there was any disagreement between the Member States, “the unfortunate” minister could hardly impose a given view on anyone.